Babies in seperate sacs?? UPDATE
Hi ladies,
I think i have too much time on my hands as i am finding something new to worry about constantly...
I had my 12 wk scan at the start of feb when we discovered we were having twins. When the mw was doing the scan she initially thought that the babies are in the same sac but after ages looking around she finally said she saw a VERY fine line indicating that thery are in seperate sacs. She was trying to show me but i couldn't make it out, basically she didn't convince me. I have since been looking at other peolpe's 12wk scan pics on line and notice that on most when they are in seperate sacs you can see a really clear thick dividing line between the sacs but on mine you see nothing!
I know i'm probably being stupid & will just have to wait for my 20wk scan on 2nd april but i'm just worried as i know being in the same sac is more risky right??
I wondered what you lot of experts thought lol! xx
Here is a link to the pic...http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af44/lmt80/12 wk scan/03022010064.jpg
UPDATE;
Just to let you all know, i had my 20wk scan last week & there is definately a thin membrane seperating the babies. They could not say though if i have one placenta or two so still no idea if they are ID or NON? Apparently it looks like one placenta but could also just be two that have fused together? There was a small size difference but i was told it was within normal limits & it is very common for twins to be slightly different in size. Unfortunately the grumpy sonographer would not tell us the sex as in her opinion it didn't matter??!!!! So we went for a private gender scan this week & it looks like we are having two more girls! There are gonna be A LOT of hormones in my house Poor hubby!
Hope everyone is well xx
[Modified by: lmt on 09 April 2010 21:31:14 ]
I think i have too much time on my hands as i am finding something new to worry about constantly...
I had my 12 wk scan at the start of feb when we discovered we were having twins. When the mw was doing the scan she initially thought that the babies are in the same sac but after ages looking around she finally said she saw a VERY fine line indicating that thery are in seperate sacs. She was trying to show me but i couldn't make it out, basically she didn't convince me. I have since been looking at other peolpe's 12wk scan pics on line and notice that on most when they are in seperate sacs you can see a really clear thick dividing line between the sacs but on mine you see nothing!
I know i'm probably being stupid & will just have to wait for my 20wk scan on 2nd april but i'm just worried as i know being in the same sac is more risky right??
I wondered what you lot of experts thought lol! xx
Here is a link to the pic...http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af44/lmt80/12 wk scan/03022010064.jpg
UPDATE;
Just to let you all know, i had my 20wk scan last week & there is definately a thin membrane seperating the babies. They could not say though if i have one placenta or two so still no idea if they are ID or NON? Apparently it looks like one placenta but could also just be two that have fused together? There was a small size difference but i was told it was within normal limits & it is very common for twins to be slightly different in size. Unfortunately the grumpy sonographer would not tell us the sex as in her opinion it didn't matter??!!!! So we went for a private gender scan this week & it looks like we are having two more girls! There are gonna be A LOT of hormones in my house Poor hubby!
Hope everyone is well xx
[Modified by: lmt on 09 April 2010 21:31:14 ]
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Just thought id try and reassure you that you cant see the line on many of my pictures. We often only got fleeting glimpses of it during the scans, and sometimes the sonographer would just have to turn the screen so he could see it, let alone us!
At my original private scan at 10 weeks, I was told they were in the same sac as you couldnt see the line.
Same sac pregnancies are more tricky with the chance of cord entanglement mainly, but they would have wanted to make sure and probably wouldnt have told you they were if they werent. Also, my notes had to have a picture of the membrane in them, even if I couldnt see it. It was often the thing that took the longest! lol
I am surprised youre not having a scan until 20 weeks though. My boys were identical and I had scans at 12, 16, 19, 21, 24 and every 2 weeks after that.
Gemma, Ryan and Alfie 22 + 4
You're right, if they were in separate sacs, it would be very clear. As Gemma says, on most of my scans, it was very hard to pick out the membrane as it "floats" and is very thin.
Being in the same sac is slightly more risky but you should be closely monitored. I really would query the frequency of your scans though. You should get a nuchal scan on the NHS if you haven't already had one (blood tests are inaccurate for twins) and should be getting scans more regularly (and before 20 weeks) to check that the babies are growing well. What's most important for MCDA twins (if that's what you are carrying) is to check bladder function and amniotic fluid levels around both twins.
With all due respect to medical teams, many hospitals have very little experience of dealing with twins (especially ID ones) so it's really important that you make a nuisance of yourself (in a good way I mean!) if you are not happy about the level of care you're getting
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I just keep thinking back to how unsure the mw doing the scan seemed (thought it odd actually that it was a mw doing the scan & not a dr?) She also said that the twins were non id due to them apparently being in different sacs but from what i have read that is not necesserily the case??
I have looked into my local hospital a little on drfosterhealth.co.uk & apparently they only had 5 multiple births last year so now i'm thinking they probably don't know what they are talking about!
As for the scans they don't even do the neuchal fold scan here & you are right i didn't have the blood tests either as they would have been inaccurate anyway. Soooo annoying, i had it with dd but we moved to this area last year & while it is lovely the medical care seems pretty backwards. I thought i'd have had more scans too but apparently it's just 12, 20, 28 then every two weeks. I'm seriously tempted to go for a private scan, i just want to know for sure what "kind" of twins we are having & that they are ok.
xx
Im also surprised a mw did your scan. I had a mw and a sonographer in on my scans then saw a consultant after every one too.
Much of the information I got came from Tamba...the messageboards are fab and you can read them without joining. I do recommend you join though as they are fab with discounts for places such as Clarks.
Im not sure your scan times are very good. If your twins are ID - which you are right they could be if they share a placenta (although placentas can fuse so they can never be 100% sure) - then you will need more scans to check for abnormalities, namely twin to twin transfusion syndrome (where one twin takes nutrients from the other). This can develop at any time during your pregnancy, but there are specific indicator dates and im sure one of these is 16 weeks??
Em, x
sarah
This being the case, you should see your consultant to "book in" at 14 weeks and then see him regularly. I had fortnightly scans from 16 weeks and saw the consultant every 4 weeks until 28 weeks (after which I saw him fortnightly).
I really would urge you to push for the care you are entitled to. It was thanks to the regular monitoring of my local hospital and quick referral to a hospital that specialised in multiple pregnancies (as my local hospital freely admitted they didn't know that they were doing!) that I have 2 healthy babies today.
I'm not trying to scare you by any means but you really are entitled to some closer monitoring than you're getting at the moment.
xx
I did see my consultant after my 12wk scan but don't see him again till 20 wks, then 28 wks. I just thought it odd that he didn't look in on the scan himself?? It does seem odd to me that i don't get much more monitoring than when i had my dd who was obviously totally straightforward.
I think i will TRY!!! to talk to my mw as she has triplets so would hopefully know how the hospital usually work with multiples e.t.c.
Will let you all know how i get on.
Thanks again. xx
sarah
good luck and hope this helps xxxx
I recently found out i was expecting twins, I had a scan at 9 weeks and I can clearly see they are in seperate sacs, although they are only blobs on the scan pic. I've set it as my avatar if you want to look. As for the extra care I know i'm getting scans at 20/24/28 weeks etc but that is because my previous pregnancy ended badly and i will be consultant led care. I hope you find the answers you want xx
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Glad you've got such good care, you are lucky. My hospital's approach to multiple pregnancy seems to be very very vague. I have an internal scan next week to check for signs of prem labour & i will finally see my dr again (first time since 12wks-now 24wks). Let's hope they show a little more interest at this appointment!
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LMT - i dread getting SPD, i'm already finding it uncomfortable when i'm on my feet for 10 mins or more so keeping my fingers crossed i don't get it. I really feel for you having to cope with the pain and struggling on crutches xx