ITV NEWS: NHS MATERNITY A STATE!!

omg. has anybody seen the itv new on the report made about the nhs in england maternity and care for newbrons and new mums????

im very angry now.

21 percent of hospitals in england do not provide proper care to the state where they are negleting people in the uk, and 70% of which were in London.

Some nurse in charge of englands nhs maternity thing was there saying about 2009!!
so what abuot al our babys born before then, we just have to suffer, because they cant be bothered???

[Modified by: S- J Gachette on 25 January 2008 13:39:44 ]
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  • yes its all my bloody local ones to !!! was just listing to bbc news but missed the norfolk and norwich did you hear it bloody mother talked all over it !!!
  • Hi if you go to itv.com/news theres a list of all the trusts with how they performed in the survey.Mine is the north cumbria acute hospitals trust and it was best performing which puts my mind at rest, but i have had my 2 lo ther and everything has been good.
    vikki xx
  • the nhs has been providing rubbish care for new mums, labour etc and newborns. being let home too early because not enough midwifes and nurses to care for the amount of newborn one mother as jemox said above was sent home the day she gave birth, never showed how to feed, bath or hold her baby even though he had special needs. She was not stitched up properly and said she and newborn had suffered because of it. another woman caled jesse sent a message in and said that she caled midwifes saying baby was minutes away and they didnt believe her. next thing she knew her baby was born on the floor banging his head on the way!

    i think its disgraceful! i mean fair enough the way have admitted it but what about all the people it as already affected and the people like us that are expecting, do they really need to leave it until 2009 to start thinking about fixing it. AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
  • Oh no thats awful!
    Does anyone know what they said about West Sussex? I live in Chichester xxx
  • heres what the itv.com/news site says:

    Maternity services criticised by watchdog
    Published: Friday, 25 January 2008, 7:45AM
    Women and their new babies are being failed by poor maternity care, a report has warned.

    The Healthcare Commission said a fifth of NHS Trusts are failing to deliver an acceptable level of care.

    The report also found ultrasound scans are not being properly checked for abnormalities in unborn babies.

    Guidelines from the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) recommend 11 checks to be performed during ultrasound scans.

    These include studying the baby's heart function, length of spine, counting bones in the arms and legs and looking at head shape and size.

    The scans should also examine the development of the baby's face and lips.

    But the Healthcare Commission found that just 61 per cent of scans performed by trusts included all 11 checks.

    Nice also raised the quality requirements for Down's Syndrome screening in April 2007, but only 11 per cent of Trusts reported meeting these standards for all women.

    This means those women in the remainder of cases are receiving inferior screening, according to the Commission.

    A shortage of midwives is being blamed on the shortcomings.

    On average, units have 31 midwives per 1,000 deliveries but nine trusts trusts had only 26 midwives per 1,000 deliveries or fewer.

    Two thirds of these trusts were scored weak in the review, suggesting very low staffing levels may be associated with poor overall performance, according to the report.

    The Royal Colleges recommend 36 midwives per 1,000 deliveries to enable one to one care in labour.

    A total of 68 per cent of trusts were meeting a guideline set by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists requiring consultants to be present on the labour ward for at least 40 hours per week.

    However, 32 per cent were not yet meeting the guideline, according to the study.

    How is your NHS trust rated?

    The commission ranked 21 per cent as "least well performing" (31 trusts) and 22 per cent as "fair performing" (32 trusts).

    A quarter 26 per cent of trusts were "best performing" (38 trusts) and 32 per cent got the slightly lower score of "better performing" (47 trusts).

    Airedale NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Ashford and St Peters Hospitals. Least well performing.

    Barking, Havering and Redbridge Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Barnet and Chase Farm Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Barts and The London NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Fair performing.

    Basingstoke and North Hampshire NHS Foundation Trust. Fair performing.

    Bedford Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Birmingham Womens Health Care NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Blackpool, Fylde and Wyre Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Bolton Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Bradford Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Least well performing.

    Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Bromley Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Burton Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Calderdale and Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Cambridge University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Central Manchester and Manchester Childrens University Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Least well performing.

    Chesterfield Royal Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    City Hospitals Sunderland NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    County Durham and Darlington Acute Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Dartford and Gravesham NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Derby Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Doncaster and Bassetlaw Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Dudley Group of Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Ealing Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    East and North Hertfordshire NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    East Cheshire NHS Trust. Best performing.

    East Kent Hospitals NHS Trust Large. Fair performing.

    East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    East Sussex Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Essex Rivers Healthcare NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Frimley Park Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Gloucestershire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and Gloucestershire PC. Better performing.

    Guy's and St Thomas's NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Hammersmith Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Heart of England NHS Foundation Trust. Least well performing.

    Heatherwood and Wexham Park Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Hereford Hospitals NHS Trust Small outside London. Better performing.

    Hillingdon Hospital NHS Trust (The). Least well performing.

    Hinchingbrooke Health Care NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Homerton University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Least well performing.

    Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Ipswich Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Isle of Wight NHS Primary Care Trust. Best performing.

    James Paget University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Kettering General Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Kings College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Fair performing.

    Kingston Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Lancashire Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Lewisham Hospital NHS Trust (The). Least well performing.

    Liverpool Women's Hospital NHS Foundation Trust Womens. Better performing.

    Luton and Dunstable Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Least well performing.

    Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Mayday Healthcare NHS Trust Non-teaching London. Least well performing.

    Medway NHS Trust Medium outside London. Fair performing.

    Mid Cheshire Hospitals NHS Trust (The) Small outside London. Fair performing.

    Mid Essex Hospital Services NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Mid Staffordshire General Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Milton Keynes General Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Newham University Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing.

    North Bristol NHS Trust. Better performing.

    North Cheshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    North Cumbria Acute Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    North Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust. Better performing.

    North West London Hospitals NHS Trust Non-teaching London. Fair performing.

    Northampton General Hospital NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Northern Devon Healthcare NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Northern Lincolnshire and Goole Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Northumbria Health Care NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Pennine Acute Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Peterborough and Stamford Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Plymouth Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Poole Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing

    Portsmouth Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Princess Alexandra Hospital NHS Trust (The). Better performing.

    Queen Elizabeth Hospital Kings Lynn NHS Trust (The). Best performing.

    Queen Elizabeth Hospital NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Queen Marys Sidcup NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Rotherham NHS Foundation Trust (The). Better performing.

    Royal Berkshire Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Foundation Trust and Devon PCT. Better performing.

    Royal Free Hampstead NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Royal Surrey County Hospital NHS Trust Medium. Fair performing.

    Royal West Sussex NHS Trust Small outside London. Best performing.

    Royal Wolverhampton Hospitals NHS Trust (The). Better performing.

    Salford Royal NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Salisbury NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Scarborough and North East Yorkshire Health Care NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Better performing.

    Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust. Best performing.

    South Devon Health Care NHS Trust. Best performing.

    South Tees Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    South Tyneside NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    South Warwickshire General Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Southampton University Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Southend University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Southport and Ormskirk Hospital NHS Trust. Better performing.

    St Georges Healthcare NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    St Helens and Knowsley Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    St Mary's NHS Trust London Teaching. Least well performing.

    Stockport NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    Swindon and Marlborough NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Tameside and Glossop Acute Services NHS Trust Small. Better performing.

    Taunton and Somerset NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Trafford Healthcare NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    United Bristol Healthcare NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    United Lincolnshire Hospitals. Better performing.

    University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Fair performing.

    University Hospital of North Staffordshire NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust. Best performing.

    University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay NHS Trust. Better performing.

    University Hospitals of South Manchester NHS Foundation Trust. Fair performing.

    Walsall Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    West Dorset General Hospitals NHS Trust. Best performing.

    West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Least well performing.

    West Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    West Suffolk Hospitals NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Whipps Cross University Hospital NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Whittington Hospital NHS Trust (The). Least well performing.

    Wiltshire PCT. Better performing.

    Winchester and Eastleigh Healthcare NHS Trust. Fair performing.

    Wirral Hospital NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Worthing and Southlands Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Wrightington, Wigan and Leigh NHS Trust. Best performing.

    Yeovil District Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. Best performing.

    York Hospitals NHS Trust. Better performing.

    Best Ten:

    Stockport NHS Foundation Trust (best performing)

    Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust

    North Cumbria Acute Hospitals NHS Trust

    Northern Devon Healthcare NHS Trust

    Northumbria Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust

    County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust

    Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust

    Salford Royal NHS Foundation Trust

    Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust

    Wirral University Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

    Worst Ten:

    West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust (worst performing)

    Newham University Hospital NHS Trust

    Barking, Havering and Redbridge Hospitals NHS Trust

    Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

    Homerton University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

    Mayday Healthcare NHS Trust

    Bromley Hospitals NHS Trust

    Luton and Dunstable Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

    Barts and the London NHS Trust

    St George's Healthcare NHS Trust, south London

    ???? Independent Television News Limited 2008. All rights reserved.
  • phew, mine is best performing so that puts minds at rest for me but for others must be evern more worry x
  • lol thanks for that love !!! better performing well at least its not poor i know ill want to get home asap anyway but thats discusting how they havent been checking the shapes and sizes and feactures makes me fel sick how they do treat some people x
  • you know what im livid. i dont know whether to believe it or nt. im with barts and london nhs trust and if you look its in the worst ten out of the itv chart i posted. i was told they would be the best for my as i live so close (2min away) and i went with the medical professionals advice. well they can shove thehospital up ther are now. Im finding somewhere else to have my baby thank you very much.
  • Thanks for sharing, as I hadn't seen the news.

    I guess the main thing is not too stress about it, as there is no point stressing you and baby out, particulary as there is not a lot we can do about it.

    Mine ( Barnet and Chase Farm ) is least performing, which could be a worry, but I am not going to worry about it, as if I feel things aren't right, then I will say.....

    The hospital isn't the best I have visited, but it is clean and friendly and at the end of the day it is free........

    Sam
  • its funny to think im a student nurse and im based in a london uni where all three poss placements i could have are in the worst 10 ten, but i suppose i knew that already!
  • Well it's no great suprise to see the hospital I had my daughter in is in the ten worst (barking, havering and redbridge) the antenatal care I had was awful, all the midwife would say to me is that I was to fat for her to feel the baby properly (I was a size 18 and 6ft tall so curvy but not massize) and how my size was a problem she made me feel terrible, the care I recieved when I went into labour on the ward was dreadful, I asked 4 times for some water and ended up waiting 3 hours for it... when I told then I was in established labour they said no your not (without checking me) after I had a temper tantrum and got examing they agreed and I delivered my daughter witin an hour of getting into a delivery room (the midwives for my actual delivery was fantastic) after my delivery I was put in a room and left with only two visits from a nurse in 24 hours, firstly as I wanted help with breastfeeding, she helped for 5 mins and then went and to then come in and wake me at 2am to have a go at me saying why hadn't I fed my baby I had to feed her now... They didn't help or advise me on anything to do with caring for my daughter, not helpful to a first time mum...I felt alone and overwhelmed and couldn't wait to get home...

    I won't even go into trying to get discharged and sorting out my bloods to leave, lets just say heavily stitched I had to walk halfway round the hospital to get my bloods done as they had forgotten me, only to be sent back to change as they wouldn't take my blood if I was in my pj's and then had to go back again (it took my 2 hours in total as I had 2ud degree tears and could barely walk)...

    Needless to say I am not returning there for my current peanut and I'm opting for a water birth at home.. I have to say the antenatal care I've had under Whipps Cross whom I'm under now (they got fair performing) has been excellent, they have carefully monitored my pcos and insulin and I have been seen regularly and my midwife is lovely so I am much more optimistic this time...

    I do feel for the midwives as they are massively overworked, understaffed and overpaid and unless the goverment pull their thumbs out of thier arses and put alot more money into the maternity services things will not improve...

    right rant over....

    xx
  • yeah you make a good point mummyclyders but isit good enough for your baby to be?

    it may be free, and its not like i can afford private care, but where you say about saying something if you not happy with how things go in the hopital. thats the whole ppoint. they are not listening to their patients needs. thats what started the report in the first place there were so many complaints that nhs were not listening to patients when they told them they were in labour etc, midwifes were ignoring people asking for help, or to call their spouses / family because they didn't believe a patient was infact in labour.

    are you happy having a free and friendly and clean service but knowing you might not be geting the care now as a pregnant women even before your baby is born??

    im not. i would rather know that the midwife was going to listen to me when i tel her my baby is coming and not look at a monitor and say its not.
  • oh great mines in the worse 10 thats just fab!!!!!!!
    cant say im too surprised tho
  • ur right purple babes midwives etc are overworked, underpaid etcbut they have no right to be rude, or un feeling and not sympathetic, ive just started nursing and ive seen some things and its not right, some nurses/midwives just have no bed side manner and even in my training i think y on earth r they training! sorry to rant it just annoys me!
  • Arghhhhh mines in least well performing - how wonderful!! If I wasn't worried enough I now have to worry about this image I think I would rather have my baby at home.

    C
    xx
  • thats the first time ive heard a trainee nurse admitt that some nurses have no manners or are completely rude. i went to the hospital to get my antenatal booking etc, and saw a lady called grace. she asked me various questions to fil in the family history and early notes section anddidnt note half it down and then put some other complete rubbish in.she put my as low risk, even though i had a threatened miscarriage at 10weeks and put down i had no early pregnancy bleeding. hello where did she get that from?
    i told her she was wrong and she said 'i am the midwife thank you' so obviously as poilitey as i could manage i said 'ans its my baby your putting under risk. thank you' she still didnt change it and it wasnt until i went to mee my midwife in my local gp surgery that i told her and she said she was very sorry and fixed the mistakes. i think it was terrible and i still think i should have been put down as high risk as i have had another threatened misscarriage since. i think its terrible and especially now its seeme to me the whole reason i have not been giving high risk is because the hospital service im with is in the worst ten.
  • i fineally had enough of the pain i was in at the we and when went i had to correct the doctor 3 TIMES how far gone i was !!!
    first when i was telling him as standard 2nd when he measured my bump and said ''well your certainly not any further than 30 weeks and then before i left ''yes you do look big for 20 weeks !!! i was like huh??? what?? im 27 weeks !!!

    i was amazed considering i was only there 15 mins !!!!!!
  • im justbeing honest, i hope, well i now that i wont be like that when i qualify, but ive had things like that with my mw,! its very frustrating! no-one should have to take bad care, thats y i dnt understand some of the things ive seen, like ive had to train to wash my hands! which is right! but i dnt think it happenes! im just feel bad for every1 whos had abad experience xx
  • The problem is - not enought midwives and the Govt wont pay the ones they have got properly!
    Was not suprised to see West Herts on worst list. Had my boys at Watford Gen and they had hardly any midwives (it was nearly 7 yrs ago). I had a section on the friday so couldnt move, my baby was being sick everywhere and I had an allergic reaction to the morphine (was trying to rip my skin off) yet every time I buzzed the buzzer I got a "helper" not a midwife! One old bitch even said "not you again, you're gonna wake everyone up". Finally saw a midwife and she saw straight away what was going on, took my baby to have his tubes cleared and got a doctor to come and give me and injection to counteract the morphine.

    If there had been enough midwives then this would probably have happened a good 2-3 hours earlier!

    Does anybody know what Fairfield Gen in Bury is under because I noticed that Bolton was one of the better ones so at least I have that option?
  • Gave birth to 1st baby in Kettering General = least well performing. I'd say that is accurate. They were shit! They were so disorganized midwife hadn't a clue what she was doing. After i gave birth they just neglected us. There's no one you could call on for help just left in your bed. One showed me how to breast feed lying down cuz I was so tired from all the screaming babies on the ward. She said lie on your side with your arm bent back behind my back so the baby could lie on the bed itself - it was so bloody uncomfortable I think she was making it up...

    Giving birth in University hospital of North Staffordshire this time they = fair performing...that doesn't sound great but friends have said they are mostly very good. So shall see.

    The government needs to pull a f***ing finger out...this is ridiculous, nothing ever changes.
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