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Need to pick some brains....!
Ladies I need some ideas, see if any of you can shed some light for me.....
My nephew is 10 wks born at 8lb 4, dropped an lb & 2oz below birth weight and isn't back to birth weight now 10 wks on... I think he is 7lb14 (not sure what centile but apparently is scraping the bottom of the graph).
He's breastfed and topped up with 2 sma bottles a day. He's constantly on the boob, he feeds for no longer than 10 mins but doesn't get 'milk drunk' or pass out, usually within 30 mins he is back on feeding. Eventually my SIL caves in and he gets a bottle, sometimes this will be enough for him to sleep for an hr.... He gets 4.5oz but never drains it, usually leaves an oz falls asleep and has the rest when he wakes. So if he isn't draining a bottle, he must be getting something from her?
He's colic'y, constipated, screams all the time (probably a combination of wind, lack of poo's and hunger).
He is alert but also looks vacent , I remember at my lo age she was smiling, and starting to gurgle.... he isn't but then I know no 2 babies are the same and boys develop differently to girls
She is on weekly reviews with her hv, but nothing seems to be getting done i.e a referral to paed's? They're doing all the usual remedies for the colic and I've suggested the Osteopath
Any thoughts? If he was my baby I would have been concerned weeks ago (the weight has always been an issue)
Thanks xx
[Modified by: MrsT on 10 March 2009 22:35:32 ]
My nephew is 10 wks born at 8lb 4, dropped an lb & 2oz below birth weight and isn't back to birth weight now 10 wks on... I think he is 7lb14 (not sure what centile but apparently is scraping the bottom of the graph).
He's breastfed and topped up with 2 sma bottles a day. He's constantly on the boob, he feeds for no longer than 10 mins but doesn't get 'milk drunk' or pass out, usually within 30 mins he is back on feeding. Eventually my SIL caves in and he gets a bottle, sometimes this will be enough for him to sleep for an hr.... He gets 4.5oz but never drains it, usually leaves an oz falls asleep and has the rest when he wakes. So if he isn't draining a bottle, he must be getting something from her?
He's colic'y, constipated, screams all the time (probably a combination of wind, lack of poo's and hunger).
He is alert but also looks vacent , I remember at my lo age she was smiling, and starting to gurgle.... he isn't but then I know no 2 babies are the same and boys develop differently to girls
She is on weekly reviews with her hv, but nothing seems to be getting done i.e a referral to paed's? They're doing all the usual remedies for the colic and I've suggested the Osteopath
Any thoughts? If he was my baby I would have been concerned weeks ago (the weight has always been an issue)
Thanks xx
[Modified by: MrsT on 10 March 2009 22:35:32 ]
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Definatly get on to the Hv and Gp about this and demand that he is referred to the hospital so that he can get some help! If you need any more advice then just shout! xxxx
xx
Don't know about tongue tie, spose it could be possible but wouldn't he have problems latching on? From the distance the position and latch look ok.
My MIL who is about as useful as a handbrake in a canoe say's he'll just be tall and skinny and the reason he isn't back to birth weight is because he was very swollen with fluid when born?!!? To me they aren't satisfactory reasons, but my sil is listening to her!! She also said (mil) that sma is the nearest to breast, but I thought Aptamil is and it is isn't it?
I said most of the things you girls have written, about intolerances, prescription milk.
Its very concerning - she said herself she wishes she hadn't allowed herself to be bullied into topping up with formula and stuck at bf
xxx
Yes I think he may have.... but he was only weighed again once home and I know by 2 wks he was on top ups after every breast feed, things have gradually snowballed since. They've tried cutting out sma completely, then they've stuck to giving him a set amount each day, bottles only at night, 2oz after a bf and so on....
Things are in abit of a mess really
By just snacking it doesn't allow the milk to digest before the next feed. My son lost 1lb 2oz in a week and wasn't allowed out of hospital until he'd gained around half of what he lost and kept it on for a day or so. He's now up nearly 5lb from lowest weight at 13 weeks and doing ok. I do top up with formula, but only at night. Other than that I made him work for it!
I would be concerned as it sounds like he's not getting enough nutrients and gaining enough. Looking at the charts I would pester for a referral as there could be a problem why he's not getting nutrients from the milk.
xx
the adverts are over part of your first post, does it say that he never feeds for more than 10 minutes? If so I agree that he is probably not getting the fattiest breastmilk.
I think bedheads idea of making him wait longer between feeds is a good idea, maybe give a dummy between feeds to help comfort him.
Thanks girls