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Just as I suspected, I had my scan at 8 weeks today, and wasn't good news - baby died at 6 weeks and hadn't really grown since my scan last week. So this will be my 2nd consecutive mc - which means that they will do some tests.



has anyone had tests after a consecutive mc - and if so, did you find anything out with them?



I am booked in for medical management next wednesday so am hoping it will be a straightforward mc and not complicated and prolonging like the last mc.



Don't know how I feel - but seem to be coping with it much better than my last mc. I think I had decided from the start not to bond with this baby including not give it a name or find out its due date. But I can't say I really had any symptoms at all so I had convinced myself that it was going to be bad news. I am sure I will probably erupt with tears at some point though. Is it wrong not to grieve?

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  • so sorry to hear that hun i know how u feel its just awful.



    did u have any signs were u expecting it?



    i got to my scan on monday for them to tell me i had a empty sac. i had gone on for 12weeks like that not knowing. my body thinks there is a baby so im still getting all the symptoms.



    its just awful. hope u r ok. xx
  • Honey I'm so so sorry to hear your sad news. I dont know what else to say too you honey x I'm totally gutted for you
  • JenJen so sorry to hear your sad news too. I couldn't imagine finding out after 12 weeks, its hard enough at just 8 wks, especially if you have had symptoms all along. My very first mc had an empty sac too. Blyted ovum they call it. I went on to have a healthy girl after that mc. So things can work out for you next time around like it did for me.



    My age isn't on my side this time as I am 38. I had a scan last week, and the baby was smaller than what it would be at that time, and no heartbeat at exactly 7 weeks, so I had a week to think about it and compose myself in prep for today. It could have worked out fine, but I wanted to try and prepare for bad news.



    thank you for your support wanabamama. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
  • So sorry to hear you are going through this again. Life is so cruel sometimes. Look after yourself honey xx
  • Hi s-evans, was really sad to read your post this morning. I was hoping things would be ok.



    My story is (as you might know) very similar, I had 2 mmc early on. I must admit, like you, after the first one, when I fell pregnant again, I really didn't get too attached at all, it was almost like I was preparing for the worst before it had even happened. I guess that's just a way of dealing with things.



    After the 2nd one, I went to the docs and pretty much demanded some tests, even though they say they don't test till after 3 (which is crazy!). I too felt I didn't have age on my side, I'm 36. I had tests for sticky blood syndrome and serum ferritin levels, both of which came back fine.



    Hubby and I also saw a nutritionalist, and there we found both of us were defficient in a couple of things, which we rectified. Whether this helped us this time getting/staying pregnant I don't know, just felt good doing "something".



    Also, and nobody tells you this after the 1st mc, but after our 2nd, we were told its actually quite common to have 2 and CAN be down to nothing but chance.



    As you know I am pregnant again, nearly 18w and all so far so good. Quite a number of ladies on here, Muffin for one, is also 3rd time lucky.



    Not sure what else to say, but I really feel for you and be prepared, I think the tears will come at some point, but just let them out, give yourself time to grieve, there's no time limit when these things happen.



    Look after yourself, I'm sure your little angel will watch over you.



    Lots of love



    Zxx
  • Thank you for your lovely message Z.



    how much did it cost to see a nutritionist? how did you find them too? What did it involve - did you have to keep a diary of everything you ate? Did dh willingly sign up for it? I am sure my dh would tell me that I was doing everything possible now. Although I could do with giving up alcohol for good during the TTC stage although I do think it is mostly down to chance too.



    I was told after 1st mc that it was rare to have a second mc. But it obviously isn't. You have given me some hope that no 3 could be okay. I am blessed with the fact that it hasn't taken me that long to get pg with the last 2 pgs, and hope it won't take me too long again.



    Thank you for your words of reassurance - they mean a lot.
  • a hun am so sorry u had to go through this again. sending u cyber hugs
  • Oh s-evans i'm completely gutted for you, i'm so sad to read this. I know how you're feeling right now, even the not grieving part. I had 2 mmc's last year and like you I didn't let myself believe that things would be ok with the 2nd baby, so when I was told that yet again i'd mc'd I didn't immediately cry. Yes I was heartbroken again but I was more angry, and very confused as to why I wasn't more upset, that in fact upset me more as I thought I should have reacted as I did the first time round. I guess it was kind of like 'well I know I can deal with this so I will'.



    The midwife I saw told me that 2 mc's are more common than people think; in fact at that hospital they had a clinic for women who'd suffered 3 mc's or more and decided to reduce the criteria to those who'd had 2 mcs. When they did this the clinic was so over run that they reverted it back to 3 mc's and they only had 2-3 women each week. This didn't really make me feel better but she did say that 2 are much more common than people think, 3 are not. For this reason they won't do any tests on me unless I mc again, which the thought of sounds horrendous, but they did take tissue from my 2nd mc and found my baby had a full set of extra chromosomes so it had no chance of survival. This apparently is the most common reason for mc. Maybe you can ask your hospital to do this. It helped me come to terms with another loss, there was absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it.



    You've had another huge shock, even though you thought you expected it and it may not be until after you've had the medical management that you begin to deal with it, but deal with it in your own time and don't worry if you don't grieve immediately. It's good that the hospital have said that they'll run tests now, there's nothing worse than getting pg again not knowing if the same thing will happen because the hospital wont check anything out.



    Take care of yourself, I hope all goes as well as can be on Wednesday and again i'm so sorry you're having to go through this again. Thinking of you xx
  • Thank you Missy and Kwn.



    Kwn - you are probably right it won't hit me till next week.



    I think the reason why I am bottling it up is because DD is 2 tomorrow, and I really don't want to spoil her day by feeling miserable.



    I think I will ask the hospital if they can do tests from what is left - but I doubt they will be able to do anything as they would have said today. But I will ask. Thanks for the info.
  • Oh pet, im so so sorry. Life is just so unfair sometimes. I guess maybe we just prepare ourselves for the worst 2nd time round, while secretly hoping for the best. Like some of the girls have said, 2 losses sadly appears quite common, and then its 3rd time lucky. I hope your visit back to us gives you some comfort and that its just a flying visit. Loads of love Tracy xxx
  • Hi s-evans



    Having trouble remembering completely, but yes, hubby was totally up for it.



    I have copied the below from the woman's website:



    Wellness sessions use the computer-based SCIO, a biofeedback device which screens the body's electrical energy system recording the responses and reactions.



    The intention is not to diagnose, rather to identify underlying causes which may be creating imbalance and stress. The SCIO may assist with a variety of issues including:



    Food Sensitivities

    Vitamin and Mineral Deficiencies

    Poor Digestion and Assimilation

    Irritable Bowel

    Yeast Overgrowth

    Fatigue

    Arthritis

    Detoxification

    Hormone Imbalance



    What Happens In A One-to-One Session?



    During a consultation, a questionnaire is completed in order to gain information regarding medical history, diet and lifestyle.



    The test is carried out in a pleasant and relaxed atmosphere. It requires the client to be linked to the SCIO via a simple system of wrist, ankle and head bands.



    An initial consultation provides sufficient time to test for food sensitivities, digestive health, organ imbalance and other conditions. A FREE vitamin and mineral deficiency check is included. Chronic health issues can also be discussed during a Wellness Screening. Nutritional and dietary advice is given and a report is provided at all consultations.



    Treatment, where appropriate, is delivered via the SCIO in the form of electro-acupuncture and energy balancing or through magnet therapy. The aim is to restore the body to better functioning through the promotion of self-healing.



    Fee for a 1 hour consultation, including treatment where appropriate - ??45.



    We found it very helpful and interesting. Like I said, I don't know if its because of this, ie taking some extra supplements etc, that helped, or not, but it felt good to look into things.



    Thinking of you.



    Zxx
  • Oh S-evans, really really sorry to read this hun. As the others have said yes unfortunately 2mc's in a row is more common than you think and than they make out, in fact I had 3mc's in a row before this PG and was totally gutted that it kept happening. Laujai who has been on here a while (you may remember her) had 4 mc's in a row and got her BFP while I was going through mine, she really inspired me to keep going and she in fact has just a few weeks ago, had her baby boy, so there are some hopeful stories out there!



    Obviously they tested me (blood tests and I had a sono-histogram of my uterus) and they did find I have some antibody issues with my blood and also a heterozygous chromosome mutation (my uterus was normal), so for the 3rd PG they had me on heparin injections daily but that didn't work either and I mc'd again. I then went a specialist who said not to do that and told me to just continue with the baby aspirin daily (81mg a day - ask your doctor if you could start that while ttc?) as he was not convinced that my blood issues or the chromosome mutation were resulting in the MC's. He was right and I am now on my 4pg, still taking aspirin daily and I had to take progesterone suppositories daily until 12w (you may want to ask about this if you get your BFP again as it does no harm to take them when PG) and will be my 1st baby. I will be 38 when I deliver and so know exactly what you are feeling about your age.



    Unfortunately you may not cry at all and in fact by my 3rd mc, I am sorry to say, it just got easier to deal with as I was half expecting it, didn't get attached too quickly and I just felt very angry and annoyed with myself for not being able to carry a baby. I questioned if I wanted to carry on ttc after each mc, as the heartache is unbearable but I picked myself up and we tried again.



    I'm not sure if this has helped other than maybe to say go through the tests if they're offered, ask your doctor's advice on the aspirin (pre ttc and during a PG) and progesterone (during your first 12w) as preventative measures and try again.

    Feel free to ask any questions and once again I'm sorry you're going through this....:cry:



    BoB 20+5
  • so sorry to read this again and I cant quite believe how common it is, you dont realise until it happens to you.

    I have suffered two mc in a row as well but I found it so much harder the second time round as I didnt think it could happen again - plus I made it to the 12 weeks stage.



    We are trying again and are onto month 6 now (2ww!) and hoping that we get that third time lucky that a few of the lovely ladies in this forum have also done



    I do think it will hit all of a sudden, I remember it used to creep up on me when I thought I was ok and it will be a good thing for you when it does - it helps you to move on, as best you can anyway.



    Wishing you luck for next week - I hope all goes well for you and will no doubt speak again at some point in the future - the girls in this group are an inspiration!



    Love Joy

    xxxx
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