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Need a little whinge

I know you ladies don't mind, i just need to get some crap of my chest and thought id unload here!

Firstly im so tired of people asking me if Max is sleeping through yet, i know people are just making polite conversation but i feel like im doing something wrong when i tell people he's nowhere near. This then leads to the person advising me to top him up with formula and when i say he wont take a bottle i get a barrage of further advice on teats, leaving the room while oh does it, letting him starve until he takes it bla bla bla.

My friend called yesterday and the converstaion soon got around to it again, i was so fed up i told her straight 'what kind of mother would i be if i was happy to let my baby get hysterical for nights on end so that he would take a bottle and i could go out for the night?!' Her reply 'one who cared'. I've no idea what she meant by this but it really hurt.

Most women fight to bf and im suposed to now fight to bottle feed after Max made bfing so easy for me?! Id' love it if he could drink from a bottle and i'd happily give him a ff but he was SO upset when we tried and i don't want to see him like that.

Then today we went out for lunch with friends. My friends baby is so placid, just like his daddy. Max is a fiesty, strong willed little fella. We went round the shops first and Max was so excited by all the people, lights and music-i could see he was getting wired up. He wouldn't nod off so went from 7am until 1pm without a sleep. By the time we got to the pub for lunch he was so overstimulated he wouldn't feed. I was back and to from the baby room (too self consious to feed in public) that my food went cold, Max went hysterical and we had to cut the whole thing short.

We were both in tears by the time we got to the car, i just felt like a crappy mum. The other baby was so well behaved, i know Max isn't being naughty, he's my little angel but i just felt rubbish for not being able to get him to sleep, eat or stop crying!!

There, that's better, just having a bad day .

Tell you what did make me laugh-we went to see the vicar first thing about Max's cristening and he farted in the rectory!!(Max not the vicar!) He's now farted on a man of the cloth, pooed on a paediatrician and weed on a gp, that's pretty impressive stuff!xx

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    Oh, hun! Hope you feel better for getting all that off your chest! image

    I was just thinking of you actually and was going to post to ask if Max got over his hiccup and has gone back to sleeping for up to six hours a night. I hope he isn't getting you up too often. As for those people who are telling you to top him up, tell 'em to butt out! I know of at least one person whose son is now entirely formula fed and still gets her up two to three times a night. So ff'ing may have no effect at all.

    As for the bottles, my siblings and I were all bf'd until we were weaned on to cups. In fact, my mother was quite shocked that I decided to make sure that Peter would take a bottle from six weeks. As long as you can handle it, you are doing the best job you can of nurturing you son. Hold your head up with pride, girl! I couldn't manage without the promise of a night out next week or the evening off when my husband feeds Peter. You are doing a fabulous job! image

    And I do sympathise with you over the overstimulation problem. Peter is NOT a placid baby. He loves people and new places and faces. He is quite solemn, which makes people think he is calmer than he is but he never seems to stop! He has howled in restaurants, on buses and I am sure he is going to howl on the train when we go to London this weekend. It is heart breaking, but we are not bad mothers, we just have intelligent, curious sons. They will run us off our feet for the rest of our lives, I imagine, but oh, they will be worth every grey hair they give us. :\)

    As I say, I hope you are feeling better now you have got everything off your chest. Take care of yourself, hun, as well as Max. x
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    Hey pixiebob

    I kinda replied in my 'Failure' post on Baby... I just think that too many people are allowed to butt in and give their opinions, none of this is easy!

    I would say that I do have an easygoing, placid little girl, for which I am very grateful, but I REALLY dearly wish that I could have been doing what you girls are doing! I beat myself up frequently about the fact that I couldn't breastfeed - it was a physical thing, possibly because of my pregnancy medication, but it was also an emotional thing.. I just couldn't cope with any more battles after my pregnancy and gave in very quickly, possibly too quickly...

    Anyway, I'm going on again, just want you girls to know that I think you are brill because you are persevering with it all and one day they will sleep through beautifully - that'll probably be the day that Daisy stops (and I know it will happen!)

    C xxxxxxxxxxx
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    PB-- first of all huge hug. I totally admire you for still bf at this time. I caved into pressure and opinion and now my lo is mostly ff. Everybody has an helpful tip! I am guilty of this as I give them to other Mum friends especially when evryone takes the liberty to give me tips!! I think right well here are mine!
    This whole 'is your baby sleeping' I think is a way for people to show off! every child is sooooooooooo different and what one will be good at another will be bad out. Thats the way it goes. Just smile and take on the advice and then throw lots of tips back to them!!! LOL.
    I think you are brilliant! xxxx
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    Oh PB im almost in the same boat as you....Erin took the breast perfectly (once we overcome cracked nipples) and i have tried to give her a bottle of ff but like Max she went crazy and it was unfair on her, we have tried several times but now given up for a while, mil thinks hubby cant bond properly bcos im selfish in keeping that "special" part to myself..hmm if i had a web cam you wud see that he is at mo on xbox live with a beer and erin laying on his chest..he is in heaven and cetainly no probs bonding!!

    i tried to express but can only get 2oz out at a time so gotta build up a supply as i dont know how much she actually takes! I am very lucky thou in that she does sleep thru from 9pm ish till 5am..not sure why but do count my lucky stars!

    As for lunch...pls dont stress think about how much he was learning and taking in whilst he was awake..he would of missed all that if he was sleeping ;\)

    I agree Mrs buttons ppl do butt in and give their opinions..it dont matter what we do someone will always of done it better or done it another way..we can only do what we as their mums think and ultimately know is best for our babies!! and they can all just butt out!

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    Thanks for all the lovely replies ladies- i knew you'd all understand and make me feel better, you all talk alot of sense! It's just hard when we have a bad day and i automatically blame myself for it when deep down i know im doing a good job. Max is his own man already, he so strong minded but doesn't know what's good for him!!

    He's currently upstairs fighting his nap even though he's clearly tired-thankfully ive got hubbie here this week so he's upstairs 'shhhing' him and im relaxing down here-ha ha!!x
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    Pixiebob,
    Keep doing what your doing, I'm sure max is thriving. Amelia is an angel at home but as soon out and about she's so nosey and wants to be involved in everything then she gets overtired and screams so loud - Bit like a cat being strangled. She also doesn't feed properly when we're out which makes her worse. I'd rather have a nosey little monkey as she is learning all the time rather than a baby that sleeps all the time.
    My mum tells me its good for babies to exercise their lungs!!!
    As for night feeds, max will decide when he wants to sleep through, my friends little girl is 2 and very rarely sleeps through!!
    Hope your feeling better xx
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    Forgot to say HG, he's had a few 'bad' nights of waking every 3hours and a few 'good', last night was great-he went to bed at 5pm (after him not napping all day) then woke at 8.30pm, 3am and then up at 6ish.

    How's Peter doing?x
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    Thanks pumpacat, yes he's not feeding so well when we're out-i used to be able to feed him anywhere, the car, nursing room, different peoples houses but he's too busy being nosey-we were in debenhams the other day and there was a big mirror behind me-he spent the whole feed bobbing on and off so that he could look at himself in the mirror!!x
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    Forgot to say HG, he's had a few 'bad' nights of waking every 3hours and a few 'good', last night was great-he went to bed at 5pm (after him not napping all day) then woke at 8.30pm, 3am and then up at 6ish.

    How's Peter doing?x

    Glad to hear Max is having good nights. Hope you get lots more of them.

    Peter is currently waking up at midnight and 4 every night, then between 7 and 8 in the morning. I thought that his jabs would upset the pattern last night, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference. We are away this weekend and next which is going to muck up his routine, so we could be in for some long nights but I'm trying not to borrow trouble.

    And I completely sympathise with the lack of attention while feeding. I can't even look at Peter now as he just latches off and grins at me! :lol:
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    Max sounds exactly like my first lo, Angelo (who has never lived up to his name)! As everyone has said you really are doing so well, so please try not to worry about other peoples comments. We all do things differently and there will always be an argument for and against our different ways, I suppose.

    Whether he takes a bottle or not will seem so irrelevant in no time at all. Angelo wouldn't have a bottle and now at 22 months drinks brilliantly from an open cup..I'm so proud and wonder what I ever worried about.

    Had to laugh at the poo thing! Last week Nina pooed on our friend. It shot straight out the side of her nappy onto his hand..oh how we laughed! x
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    Hi Pixiebob,
    I need to give Freya a bath but wanted to post you a note first. Firstly, you are doing fantastically by still breast feeding. I think so many of our parents generation arent' understanding because it just wasn't really the done thing then...and so many people have the 'if it's okay for me, it should be okay for you' attitude. Freya did take a bottle,..initially, and hten she started to refuse it. And she would scream and scream and work herself into such a state (we tried over about three evenings). And then we gave up. As you say, you just can't torture your baby like that. I'm sorry to say it, but I think it is shocking that your friend suggested you might not be a good mum for not giving a bottle. Either she doesn't have kids and doesn't have a clue, or she is somehow jealous. Either way, it is unbelievably unsupportive of a new mum who is doing a fabulous job.

    On the sleep front, Freya is all over the place. Some nights it is every three hours, and once, shemanaged the WHOLE night. Babies are just so different. And, if Max is more of a night waker (which is totally normal), then you should be so proud of yourself because it is so hard for you to deal with! He will sleep through the night, and I'm so sure it is nothing to do with what you are doing but the fact that he is young and just needs the food.

    SInce freya won't take a bottle, we are going to try her with a cup soonish. I think that they actually suggest you wean babies off bottles at around months, and you can get bottles for babies as young as 4 months. That way, you might be able to keep breastfeeding for as long as you want and still get your nights out occasionally.

    One last thing, have you ever seen the list that the NCT do about the benefits of breastfeeding at different ages - I love looking at that because it makes me feel proud when I'm tired and finding it hard.

    And, one last little point - I have total respect for those who tried breastfeeding and didn't manage it. It was hideoulsly hard and I think it was luck that we got the right support that we managed it.

    Hugs,
    Ally x
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    Oh, forgot to say, have you looked at the baby whisperer - she has some interesting categories of babies....not that they are easily categorisable, but it is nice to see that there are baby types other than the 'angel' babies. It sounds like Max is spirited...which Freya is too. And that he is spirited is down to his adventurous curious personality, and not anything to do with you. Freya SO needs her sleep, but she finds it SO hard when she is out!

    Enjoy your little curious explorer - all that interest is the sign of an intelligent little boy image

    ally x
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    Well we have tried the bottle again today and she still refuses it!! but did pick up tommee tippee cups from tesco the other day (can be used frm 4mnths.,.tho shes not quite there yet) and she clearly much prefers it to a bottle, she didnt take much but latched on and had an ounze without moaning this was after trying a bottle...good thing about the cups is that the spouts and handles all fit the tt bottle range too...maybe you could give that a try, we are gonna try it again later :\)

    http://www.tommeetippee.co.uk/explora/cups-first-sips.php
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    Hey, Angelo used the TT cups from 4 1/2 months with no problems. At that age he would seem from it quite happily but soon got the hang of guzzling. Only water in his case though.
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