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All went downhill!

Hi all, my first post... I'm Kerry, had Oscar in September '07.

I planned to have lo vaginally, breast feed and generally go with nature.

Lo was 4 weeks early (because I bounced on a trampoline(!)) Due to this, he did not latch on the the breast, and following 4 weeks of expressing, putting to the breast then syringe/cup feeding topped up with formula, I'd had enough. There was still no sign of latching on and we just didn't bond at first, so I was in a very low place. We changed to bottle feeding.

Due to the bottle feeding, colic became apparent. From this we found dummies useful (which I was against at first). It all became a huge downward spiral!

Now 3 months old, Oscar doesn't always seem that content with me. He can get very wrigly, start to cry, not look me in the eye. I'm worried that as we didn't bond at first, and I was depressed (though not PND), we just don't have what could have been.

I now feel at my lowest, though not necessarily depressed anymore, I can only ever think what would have been had I not bounced on that damn trampoline - leading to a mature birth, breast freeding, no dummies, better bonding.

Can anyone relate... or give any kind of assurance?

Nice to meet you all. Kerry x

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    oh hun im so sorry to hear what you have been through! have you sought some professional help? im a psyc nurse and cant recommend it enough although there is stigma i know. i struggled at first although i bf for 5 weeks i stopped as i felt there was alot of pressure and jospeh not getting enough etc but i regret it bitterly.. i was also surrounded by lots of people which did not help. then my freinds baby died just before he was born so then i felt scared to bond too well in case it happened to jospeh even though he was 5 weeks old.

    all i can say is from my experience it does get easier as time passes and the bond does come hun my lo is 8 months now and gorgeous and i know exactly what i would do differently next time (ttc no2 as we speak) motherhood is so hard and its not always an immediate bond as people tell you however speaking about it to get others' experience certainly helps you to realise you not alone or abnormal. welcome to the site its a godsend xxxxx Hayley xxxx
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    Hi, reading your story was like I had written it myself. Nothing went to plan for me either. I ended up with a forceps birth, took pethidine (which I vowed not to have), my baby also wouldn't latch onto the breast (due to being in special care) and I was adamant during pregnancy to feed from the breast. I also hated dummies and ended up giving one to little one for trapped wind. The only difference is that I ended up being diagnosed with PND, and am now feeling on top of the world. If you need to talk, I'll be here to listen.
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    Thanks Hayley, what can professionals do/how can I go about geting help?

    The other thing I didn't mention is that my oh feeds lo in the eves, my mum the odd bottle in the day sometimes and random others if we're visiting. Could this be a big problem with our bonding? I got used to the extra help when I was depressed, and am now very used to it.

    We've just got a Gina ford routine going which has helped me realise that his crying/wingeing isn't tiredness, hunger etc.

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    [Modified by: KerryBerry on December 29, 2007 11:35 PM]
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    I went to the doctor because I realised that something weasn't right and I also had an amazing midwife who diagnosed it on week 3
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    I can relate to the nothing going as planned and the problems bonding.
    I was going to my local midwife run ward and having a water birth and breast feeding for at least 2 weeks and then expressing.
    I ended up having pethedine and an epidural both of which i said i would never have but begged for in the end, i had an ambulance ride to the hospital from midwife ward and ended up with a c section. I then struggled with bonding and feeding, my lo latched on but never seemed to wan to come off and after 4 nights of continuous feeding from 10pm to 3am and still not wanting to stop i finally broke down and decided it wasn't good for either of us and went to the bottle.
    This resulted in colic symptoms, tried everything including cranial osteopathy where i was told her restlessness could be down to a stressful pregnancy and birth, so felt completely guilty.
    Anyway turned out to be lactose intollerance and after changing milk lo is much better.
    I also got used to the help and lo is fed by oh and my mum quite alot and seems fine with it.
    Lo is now 5 months and we have bonded now, she is a very wriggly baby and does not like to be carried or held much but loves to hold your hand, don't know if it was because of me that she is like this but she has been ill this week and would only settle with me which has made me more confident that we have at last bonded properly.
    It will come give it time, i am not a natural mother like so many others and have never really been a maturnal person so blamed myself for it all but i think sometimes when we blame ourselves all the stress and worry is picked up by the baby and it doesn't help so try and relax and go with it. My hv told me babies cry and no matter who you are you can't always stop it, just make sure they are clean, fed and well and then go with it.
    Good luck.
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    Hi hun, im so sorry that things havent gone so well for you! my ella is 7 months old now, i have a poorly heart n had no option but to have a c section and i also suffer with depression. I bottle fed from the start and i know people will look down on me for that but to be honest hun i dont think u should be so hard on yourself. i didnt give birth naturally or breast feed but she is a happy and healthy little girl so dont think everything u read is true! u clearly love ur little one with all your heart and no one can teach that! ur doing a fab job so keep it up and keep smiling babe x x x
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    Just think you're the best mummy he's got !!!! Some babies are a bit wriggly and unsettled and it is not a reflection on you, just they way they are. Try and stay positive and set yourself other little goals like making him smile or taking him swimming for the 1st time.
    No point wasting time thinking about the 'what if's' - no guarentee if you had gone longer it would have been any different- you grew him from scratch so have already done a superb job.
    Love and luck xxxx
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    Thanks Hayley, what can professionals do/how can I go about geting help?

    The other thing I didn't mention is that my oh feeds lo in the eves, my mum the odd bottle in the day sometimes and random others if we're visiting. Could this be a big problem with our bonding? I got used to the extra help when I was depressed, and am now very used to it.

    We've just got a Gina ford routine going which has helped me realise that his crying/wingeing isn't tiredness, hunger etc.

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    hi hun sorry been so long to reply not too well at min damn cold! again!!!

    if you go to your gp and ask for some professional help or if you are still in touch with your midwife ask her. professionals in the feild of post natal depression are of great help i think they can offer councelling and groups/individual work for you and there are others in the same situation. my sis suffers with pnd has with both her kids and she goes to baby massage to help bond with rhianna who is now 3 months old. hope this helps i really feel for you xx
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    Hi kerry, try not to beat yourself up about it, there was nothing you could do to stop your lo being born early, i was bouncing on a trampoline with my older children and my lo still refused to come, at the end of the day they come when they are ready, also even if he had been born on time you still may have experienced problems breast feeding, some babies are less content than others, my second was born 5 days late and i was determined to feed her, it lasted 4 weeks with me struggling and her crying (and me too at times) and her not gaining weight, i had pnd and struggled to bond with her, she is 8 now and the bond is very definitely there, looking back i think it was a confidence thing for me and accepting that things dont always go to plan but i also learnt that you can do nothing to change what has happened in the past so try to look to the future. You will bond with your baby and you will start to feel better soon. just remember you are your babys mum and for that he will always love you.
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    Thank you all. You've all be so great. I'm sitting on the floor next to lo now, our bond does seem to be getting stronger. Since posting, I've started laying him on a rug on the floor when he's got wriggly. This has instantly made him happy, and we 'chat', play and he's smiling loads more already! He does already seem to like grasping my hand which I find odd, because I thought that since he is wriggly, he wouldn't enjoy having his hand still, but it seems to help more.

    My brother bought him a hand puppet for christmas (a hippo) which also helps as he really likes watching me 'walk' hippo around, and for some reason loves the masculine voice I 'do' for hippo. All this has made me feel much closer - like I've found a way for him to enjoy me. Thanks hippo!

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    really pleased your feeling a bit happier, it does take time and if you ever need a chat/rant we are here. xx
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