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    sas1101 said:
    @Remedios thank you so much. Yes as I start my injections next cycle I can't TTC as they are unsure effect on pregnancy. By the time I have embryo transfer I would have stopped the injections 😊 

    That's great you're not having any PMS and when that happened to me and AF turned up I'd always be happy that I'd had a good cycle. Got to seek out the positives 🙌 I have all my fingers, toes and everything else crossed for you 🤞 

    It is tough when you reach that TTC for a year milestone. I know how much it can hurt. I always think to myself that every month AF comes is still one month closer to meeting my baby. Seems strange doesn't it? but I believe things are meant to happen when they happen and every month you are getting closer to the end goal. It's good that you and oh have been checked out all is good, keep going you will get there. I know you will 😊 However, in the meantime there is no harm in contacting your GP to let them know that you have reached the year and as you are over 35 they should refer you to further tests. Obviously it may take a little longer with Covid but it's good to get the ball rolling. It's actually in NICE guidelines. I really really hope you don't need that and your bfp is around the corner. Big hugs ❤️ 

    My GP called today to say I have thrush 🙈🙈🙈 I have zero symptoms which is weird. Maybe all the heat and exercise has upset the balance down there 🤦 (sorry for the tmi). Trying to get oh to put cream on too has been a task! Why are men pains when it comes to these things!! 

    @VeronicaMA I'm good thank you. Thank you for your kind words. Sorry I'm late over to this chat and @Remedios tagged me in a post. Forgive me if you've already types this before but are you currently TTC? I hope you're well 
    @sas1101 Sorry to hear that they told you about the thrush. Did they mention if you can take anything for it?
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    edited May 28, 2020 10:13AM
    Hi @VeronicaMA I'm very good thanks for asking. Yeah the relaxed approach for whatever reason is always the best. This comes from experience. Plus you get to save money on early testing. Pregnancy tests are not cheap! If my oh knew how much i'd spent on pregnancy tests in my crazy days it would turn his hair white! I hope this approach is working out for you and oh. Have some fun with it and one thing I've learnt is that our hubbies are more sensitive than you think. Mine once said to me he felt like a piece of meat 🙄 I mean never expected a man to say that! Oh and the less he knew about the process and military operation it felt them better he enjoyed it. FC you get your bfp soon. 

    The injection I take is called Buseralin. The nurse told me that there isnt enough research into the effect of this on early pregnancy so best to avoid. It essentially stops my ovaries from working by suppressing LH and estrogen as the last thing they want is spontaneous ovulation. Last time it gave me terrible night sweats, dizzy spells and headaches 😬

    Are you on the UK? 
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    Remedios said:
    @VeronicaMA Thank you for your kind words! I am not testing, wasn't tempted this morning, although temp hit the roof. It still can come down tomorrow. 
    How are you? When will you get the result of your test? How is work? What cycle day are you on?

    @Remedios Hey lovely! How are you doing? I totally see your point, but please try to be positive as well :) It will eventually happen! Will cross my fingers and toes for you :)  

    I did just read your post where you mentioned the UTI. Apparently, those are very normal when TTC as there is a chemical reaction in our bodies as a result of the interaction of women hormones and the semen, and they don't usually affect men because it's not an STD. :smile:

    I got my test results and everything is normal, which is kind of a relief :) I'm sorry that have been off these days, but I needed to finish some things, and it worked! I managed to finish all my uni assignments, I finished editing the first book for the publishing company (which we will launch soon) and got to relax as well, so I can now focus on new things! Today is still my ovulation day, so we are still just trying :)
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    @sas1101 Well deserved cuppa. Well done for working so hard! I have done my run with only 1 dog as the other one is limping. Poor thing. Did some more weeding and just started to steam the "spotted dick". Yes, the dessert. ;) 
    I feel that my body is not good enough. Just as you described. I love all the science behind conceiving. You just pick up these things when you search online, hear stories, search some more. I wish there would be an exam about and if you passed you can get pregnant. It would be easier! :D 

    How sure are you that this is not your month? I was wondering what I read about thrush. Doesn't it more likely to have it when you are pregnant?! Just saying. ;)

    Yes, it was stressful and sad time for my husband and I, but with had some healing time during this lockdown. I am not sure that I would have been able to cope with grieving and work. In a sense the isolation and that I was furloughed was a Godsend! 

    I am not testing, I am not testing (keep saying it to myself). Actually I am relaxed about it and not tempted at all. Possibly my temp will drop tomorrow and AF will come on Friday. If not... … then maybe test on Sunday. As Sunday is the end of month, so I could... no! stop dreaming. I don't know why my temperature was so high, maybe I have Corona Virus. :) I never reached 36.96?! 

    I chuckled about the cup size and that husband is not allowed to touch them. :D Mine are slightly sensitive (at the side?!) Might be muscle pain from all the weeding. :) 


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    @VeronicaMA Nice to hear from you! You must have busy with all the work and BD. ;) 

    Thank you! I hope it will eventually happen indeed. I just need to be patient! This TTC journey has already thought a lot about myself and at the end I might come out as a better, more experienced, maybe wiser person. Hopefully "mummy". ;)

    I didn't know about UTI and TTC. We were travelling throughout countries at the time (Vienna-Austria then to Hungary) and I thought I just picked the infection up from some unfamiliar place. I took antibiotics from the pharmacy and that cleared it in a few days. It was very uncomfortable though, couldn't sleep through the night and always had to look for loo whilst out sightseeing. :)

    Great news that your results are clear and fine! That is a relief! Something to tick off the list. 
    What is the book about? What is the title? How exciting! You have been a busy bee, not a wonder that we haven't heard from you. ;) 

    I cannot believe that it is your ovulation already! Are you tracking it on the app? Have you got ovulation symptoms? Are you using OPKs as well?  Have fun! ;) 
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    sas1101 said:
    Hi @VeronicaMA I'm very good thanks for asking. Yeah the relaxed approach for whatever reason is always the best. This comes from experience. Plus you get to save money on early testing. Pregnancy tests are not cheap! If my oh knew how much i'd spent on pregnancy tests in my crazy days it would turn his hair white! I hope this approach is working out for you and oh. Have some fun with it and one thing I've learnt is that our hubbies are more sensitive than you think. Mine once said to me he felt like a piece of meat 🙄 I mean never expected a man to say that! Oh and the less he knew about the process and military operation it felt them better he enjoyed it. FC you get your bfp soon. 

    The injection I take is called Buseralin. The nurse told me that there isnt enough research into the effect of this on early pregnancy so best to avoid. It essentially stops my ovaries from working by suppressing LH and estrogen as the last thing they want is spontaneous ovulation. Last time it gave me terrible night sweats, dizzy spells and headaches 😬

    Are you on the UK? 
    @sas1101 Oh yes! that's another reason, hehe. It brings no joy and it will only stress us even more! For some reason, my bf assumes that it will happen this year. Today, he came to me and said that we will not pierce Leighla (the girl's name we chose)'s ears (which is common in my home country) nor shave the baby's head cause "we don't do that in the U.K.", to which I responded: "OK! I agree, but we won't baptise her either then!" He did not like it, and hopefully he will see my point about not being so bossy. I am laughing at it because I am not even sure if it will work this month either and he is just making crazy plans XD Answering your question: I am Spanish but been living in London for 4.5 years :) I love it here but sometimes I understand Gloria in "Modern Family" sooooo well!

    What about you? Are you in the U.K. ? Where about?
    Oh wow! Bless you, sis! Really hope that it won't be so bad this time! Is Buseralin a one-time injection or how does it work? (sorry for the ignorance in this regard). Did they inform you whether there anything you can take for the headaches if that happens again?

    I read about your job in a previous post. It is so interesting and beautiful! Is it with the NHS? Are you doing a lot of phone and video call appointments these days? 
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    Remedios said:
    @VeronicaMA Nice to hear from you! You must have busy with all the work and BD. ;) 

    Thank you! I hope it will eventually happen indeed. I just need to be patient! This TTC journey has already thought a lot about myself and at the end I might come out as a better, more experienced, maybe wiser person. Hopefully "mummy". ;)

    I didn't know about UTI and TTC. We were travelling throughout countries at the time (Vienna-Austria then to Hungary) and I thought I just picked the infection up from some unfamiliar place. I took antibiotics from the pharmacy and that cleared it in a few days. It was very uncomfortable though, couldn't sleep through the night and always had to look for loo whilst out sightseeing. :)

    Great news that your results are clear and fine! That is a relief! Something to tick off the list. 
    What is the book about? What is the title? How exciting! You have been a busy bee, not a wonder that we haven't heard from you. ;) 

    I cannot believe that it is your ovulation already! Are you tracking it on the app? Have you got ovulation symptoms? Are you using OPKs as well?  Have fun! ;) 
    @Remedios Hehe ya! been as busy as I could these days, but sooo glad that the workload is decreasing and I can spend some time with you, ladies :)

    "This TTC journey has already thought a lot about myself and at the end I might come out as a better, more experienced, maybe wiser person." Loved this sentence of yours :) It is quite deep, and could not agree more with you. It is indeed a process that can teach you a lot of things about yourself, and I am sure that you will eventually become a wonderful mummy :) 

    As for the UTI, I had a very similar experience while travelling and I was in a bad mood all the time cause I could not even sit down. I had to go to a pharmacy in Luxembourg and got some antibiotics that I took for 10 days and the problem disappeared. I had seen a doctor here in the UK before the trip, but she did not explain where it came from and just gave me pills for 3 days, so I decided to do some research. I am far from being a doctor, but it did help me understand a few things :)

    Don't get me wrong, doctors do what they can, but I have the feeling that there is sooooo much they could inform us (TTC couples and pregnant women) about possible infections and treatments, and they don't. They kind of make us wonder and think that we are crazy instead. Do you ever get that feeling?

    I am tracking it on Flo, but I don't really get any symptoms this month apart from putting 800g on. What about you? Any symptom?

    The book is psychological and mysterious thriller about a guy who lived in a household where there was domestic violence and alcohol, and about the effects that drugs and alcohol can have on us, about if we are really responsible for our acts... The guy spends the whole book wondering if he killed someone because he was on drugs all the time, he explains the whole situation at home... and then in the end you discover that he did not kill anyone, but at the same time he blames everyone else but himself for who he is, so it makes you wonder about stuff to say the least :) The title is "We are not that bad", and it will be published in Spanish first, then we would see. 
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    Remedios said:
    @VeronicaMA Nice to hear from you! You must have busy with all the work and BD. ;) 

    Thank you! I hope it will eventually happen indeed. I just need to be patient! This TTC journey has already thought a lot about myself and at the end I might come out as a better, more experienced, maybe wiser person. Hopefully "mummy". ;)

    I didn't know about UTI and TTC. We were travelling throughout countries at the time (Vienna-Austria then to Hungary) and I thought I just picked the infection up from some unfamiliar place. I took antibiotics from the pharmacy and that cleared it in a few days. It was very uncomfortable though, couldn't sleep through the night and always had to look for loo whilst out sightseeing. :)

    Great news that your results are clear and fine! That is a relief! Something to tick off the list. 
    What is the book about? What is the title? How exciting! You have been a busy bee, not a wonder that we haven't heard from you. ;) 

    I cannot believe that it is your ovulation already! Are you tracking it on the app? Have you got ovulation symptoms? Are you using OPKs as well?  Have fun! ;) 
    @Remedios I had written and posted the response to your message, but for some reason I can't find it any more. Anyway! I'll write it again :)

    "This TTC journey has already thought a lot about myself and at the end I might come out as a better, more experienced, maybe wiser person" loved this line of yours :) And absolutely agree with you. It is a process that can take longer or shorter, but what matters is that we can learn a lot from it. And I am sure that you will be a wonderful mummy :) Just imagine if we end up becoming pregnant at the same time? :)

    As for the UTI and TTC, I had a very similar experience in our last trip. I was in an incredibly bad mood so I had to look for a pharmacy in Luxembourg, where I bought antibiotics for 10 days. Luckily that worked, but I was so upset because I had been at the doctor a week before our trip here in London and I was never explained where it came from, just that UTIs are common, and got antibiotics for 3 days only (not enough). That is why I decided to do some research. Think that having some answers to what we go through while TTC and getting pregnant is so important, and from experience from working with doctors (and as a patient), they don't always answer our questions. Do you ever get that feeling? 

    I am just using Flo, but I have no symptoms at all apart from some egg creamy discharge from time to time and the fact that I put on 800 g. What about you? How are you feeling? Has your headache disappeared yet?

    The book is a psychological thriller about a young man who grew up in a household where there was domestic violence and alcohol, and he spends the story wondering if he killed someone because he was on drugs all the time. It's also a reflection about if drugs, madness or alcohol can be an excuse for our acts and decisions. The guy ends up blaming everyone around him for everything that went wrong in his life. The title is "We are not that bad", and the story of the book might be a bit strange but it can make people think, to say the least :) We will publish it in Spanish first and then we will see if we will translate it or not.
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    @VeronicaMA First of all that book sounds great! I am part of a Book Club. The small group of 6-10 lovely ladies meet once a month. We managed to carry on our sessions during lockdown via Zoom and Whereby. We take turns to nominate. 3 books you need to choose and then we vote which 1 of the 3 to read and discuss next month. As we had plenty of time in April and now in May many of us have read at least 2 of the 3 books. The second choice was the Silent Patient. Have you read it? Our Book Club ladies are crazy about phycological thrillers! I am sure that we would love to read yours once it has been translated to English, of course! :) 
    Are you writing it on your own or is it co-write? 

    I hope you will hit the fertile window and June is your month! Vivid dreams are one of signs of early pregnancy. It might help with some more writing! ;) 
    My headache has gone, thank you for asking, but this afternoon I feel dizzy. I mean sitting down, looking up, down again and have the sensation on being on a roller coaster. What is happening? 

    As GP's go, well I had lovely experiences so far and need to remind myself that GP means General Practitioner. With other words they need to learn a lot of different things, must be super wide range. I am not saying this unkindly, but they know very little about everything. Specialists in the other hand, know a lot about one thing, but we need the GP's to know who to refer us to- which specialist. 
    I remember when we went to Peru on our very belated honeymoon and read a lot about Zika Virus, unfortunately it was a bit late- already booked the trip... Zika stay in women for 3 months, but 6 months in men. I was devastated as we had to wait 6 months after the trip to TTC. I knew about women and 3 months before we booked, but stupid me assumed the same rules apply to men too. No! Zika stay in semen longer. 
    Anyway. I kept my eyes on the NHS website about their guidelines, but also reading the CDC (Centres of Disease Control and Prevention) site too. This latest said 3 months for guys, but NHS kept the 6. I went to see the GP as I wanted to double check this. She did not even know about Zika! I was shocked, so I started to explain... She looked up both websites and of course because we are in the UK we need to follow the NHS guidelines, not the American one. Guess what, when our 6 months waiting time was over, NHS changed it 3 months. Grrr…. Sorry, long story. 
    What I  wanted to say with this was, that because I read every single magazine, forums, websites about Zika, because it was relevant to me at the time, I cannot expect a GP to do the same about every area they deal with. 

    I would love to become pregnant soon and keep everything crossed for you too!!! xx
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    @Remedios

    Hi, how are you?

    To be honest, I had never read the book Silent Patient and had to Google it, but it looks actually quite interesting and I want to give it a try :) It is awesome that you are part of a book club, hun! Have you discovered many interesting books?

    We haven't written this book, we got it from a Mexican author, and we mainly proofread and edited it. It took us a while, but I really enjoyed the process :) Now we are creating the book cover and writing this synopsis. And guess what? The author already sent us a great comment saying that she is loving the process, and confirmed that she will send us the new book she is working on. She has a third one that talks about the difficulty that some women in different countries face when they get pregnant in circumstances that are anything but ideal to raise a baby, as it's illegal there and they risk dying in the process as well as being sent to prison. She has a contract with another publishing company but they are not very helpful, and she will send it to us as well. It may sound strange for me to be excited about this, as I am TTC, but I think it's a very interesting way of raising awareness of the problems that home-made abortions can bring and to fight for women rights to decide over their bodies.

    I started writing a book a few years ago, but I still haven't finished it. It is a drama and mystery novel, and it basically talks about the life of Pia, a young woman who lost her whole family in a fire and she has to move with her uncle, who doesn't allow her leaving the house. Pia is only in contact with a neighbour who takes care of her as if she was her own daughter. She then meets a young guy, and they are only friends, but somehow, the uncle learned about it and raped her, and then he gave the baby for adoption. Then, there is a jump forward in time and a journalist finds Pia's diary. She learns that Pia is her grandmother's biological's mother. I wrote it when I lived in Copenhagen as some parts of the city really invite you to think of how people lived 200-300 years ago, so it was quite inspiring :)

    You don't need to thank me for anything :) All I did was asking how are you, which is quite normal :) We are all sharing quite personal information in this forum, and kind of feel like if we had known each other for a lot longer than we actually have. This forum is a real sisterhood, so obviously we do care about each other. I'm glad that your headache is gone, and I am so sorry that you're feeling dizzy. Is there anything that helps you at all when you are feeling like that? Maybe just take it easy for the day, drink a lot of water, eating something sweet and just avoid things like heavy lifting?

    About the GPs, honestly I couldn't agree more with you. Sometimes, even specialists don't really have a clue of what is going on. I understand that they are very busy, but I also think that if you are a doctor you should think a bit more about people, and if they don't know they should at least say "Ok, I don't know the answer to this but I will look for help and let's do some more tests in the meantime". It is simply outrageous that your doctor did not have a clue about the Zika virus, to be honest. S/He should at least watch the news as it was all over...

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    @VeronicaMA Silent Patient is 99p at the moment on Kindle. ;) 

    This Mexican author sounds great! I am very interested in the third book too. I have read a few book how women live in different countries, or religion, family set ups etc. "Not without my Daughter" by Betty Mahmoody, "The Last Girl" by Nadia Murad. Again knowing about how people live, makes you appreciate things...

    Your book sounds intriguing as well, I hope you will have the time and the energy to finish it one day. ;) 

    This forum has been a lifesaver! Very personal information indeed. :) I don't think I would be able share information about my body so openly anywhere else. 
    I felt thirsty yesterday as well, had good food, who know what happened, feeling OK again. Unless I am... no, I mustn't believe in it and then upset myself again. 

    Unfortunately we had a bad experience in the family with GP not recognising that mother in law's spleen kept growing. She had tummy pain, had all sorts of tablets, liquid for tummy, but the doctor did not think about the fact that an enlarged spleen can push the tummy and that is why the pain was there, but the actual cause was something around it. Finally a few years later a specialist realised that the spleen was a size of a cauliflower (should be the size of your fist). She had a splenectomy in January last year. She was also losing red blood cells somewhere in the body. Well, I know that in my country we call the spleen "the graveyard of the red blood cells". Actually it all made sense with an enlarged organ that eats blood. Living without spleen is not fun, as she had to be on antibiotics for the rest of his life. Well... she recovered from the operation, but her body was too week when she got an infection (stomach bug) and passed away last November. I would not recommend her GP to anyone; and let's leave it there.
    But I wouldn't want to the job either, it is so much responsibility and the smallest mistake could be tragic.

    How are you today? What are you plans for the nice sunny weekend?

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    @sas1101 How are you this morning on 14dpo? Fourteen!!! 
    I was expecting (not wanting) a temperature drop. No! Still high. 36.90.
    It means that AF will not arrive tomorrow. I started to feel the temptation to test, so quickly went to loo and flushed FMU. :) Temptation is over. 
    What is happening at your end? xx
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    @Remedios I had a faint line on 12 dpo that didn’t seem to get darker and now I’m 16 dpo (2 days late) and I tried a frer and it’s stark white... temp did drop on 14dpo, I have had af style cramping since 11dpo that hasn’t seemed to gone but yet still no af. This hasn’t happened to me before, normally af is so regular. Gives me hope I might still be in but deep down I’m out and just want af to show her face so I can restart my cycle :( 
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    AF just showed her ugly face 
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    @Siiia I am so sorry that AF is here! :( Also it must be very disappointing, having your hopes up and realising it is not your month after all. FX for BFP in June! ;) 
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    Good morning lovely ladies 😊 

    @VeronicaMA I hope you are well. I am so pleased that all your results came back good. I love they way you and hubby are planning baby names and talking about babies future. You've got to keep that dream alive and I feel it keeps us going. I did do a little chuckle at the tug of war about piercings etc. Reminded me of my and my oh at times. He's convinced that if we do have a baby it'll be a boy. I have to politely remind him that he can't have it all his way 😂

    You sounds like you've been very busy and a good distraction. I've lost myself in TTC at times and found I cope better when I'm distracted. Thank you for being lovely about my job. Your writing sounds very interesting, I love the sound of your book. Definitely up my street!! 

    I'm from the UK also, but have travelled around a little. I'm originally from Liverpool but lived in Australia for 5 years, London for 4 years and now I love in Warwickshire. I love where I'm loving at the moment and we love our forever home. 

    I have everything crossed for you this cycle. Do you think you have ovulated yet? 

    The buseralin is a daily injection. I will have to take it for around 4 weeks. If it gives me the baby I so long for I'd inject myself for the rest of my life 😂😂😂 For the thrush the GP said to treat with a pessary, and won't harm when TTC 👍 I have zero symptoms but already have it safely inserted. Xx

    @Remedios yay for 14dpo and what a lovely tww it has been. Thank you for your lovely company and encouragement. I really am rooting for you and I have such a good feeling about you this cycle. Wozer that is some will power to not give in to the temptation of testing! Just think if it does happen this month your like should be lovely and dark. Your temps look very good!! Also being thristy is a good sign 😉 If your temp is high tomorrow will you test??? I think you would get a good line if so. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

    As for me, I'm hoping that if it's not meant to be this cycle my AF arrives on time as the schedule works perfectly for my FET cycle. My boobs are still very sore and usually stop hurting the morning of the day AF arrives so I should know tomorrow.

    @Siiia sorry AF arrived. Treat yourself to something nice I find it always helps.  You also have a better plan for temping next cycle so you can put this in practice. Big hugs. Xx
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    @Remedios @sas1101 thanks ladies, this forum really does help x
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    @sas1101 This has been the best TWW! It is my pleasure and Thank YOU! I have really enjoyed it. Ha! I never thought I would say this about the normally most stressful and uncertain 14 days of my cycle, especially during lockdown. I really appreciate all your support, honesty, that you have been sharing your experience and wisdom, your positive attitude. Amazing that your calmness and love can come through via the internet! 
    Will power... I have been practising 'not testing' for a year now. ;) Maybe I have learned something new. 
    Wouldn't it be just the icing on the cake if we could crown this month with out BFP's? I should stop dreaming, ha?

    I am sorry that your boobs are still sore, I feel sorry for your husband too. ;) Mines do the same, pain goes once AF is here. 

    IF! my temp is high tomorrow, no probably not. I try to solve things logically: my luteal phase is normally 13/14 days. So the question is: is my chart correct? Did I ovulate on cycle day 13 (15th of May)? I think I did, but what if I am wrong? 

    Anyway, I am going to enjoy this lovely weather. We had a text from work, more details later regarding when to return from furlough. 

    What are the plans for the weekend? xx
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    That is nice to hear @Siiia! ;) We tried to be supportive and give advice, opinion, help if/when we can. @sas1101 is so right about make sure that you treat yourself with something nice; whatever that might be: chocolate, wine, bubble bath, relaxation with candles, face mask. Anything. Kindness is so important, love yourself. I normally forget about it, but we have lovely ladies here who remind me. ;) 
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    @Remedios that is so sweet for you to say. I love how you have managed this tww much better. I'm hoping this will be your last for a long time 😉 I'm still in admiration for your will power, my first year of TTC I was a contender for POAS addict of the year 🙈 Not long and hoping you actually get to pee on one as that means AF has not arrived. 

    Any news from work? My oh us hoping he can work from home a little longer as he doesn't fancy going back into London daily. He's the only one who is working in his team as the rest have been furloughed so he has been very busy but has really adapted to working from home. He has to work all weekend so I'll be chilling in the garden. I was going to repaint my bathroom but have decided that can wait until the sun goes in 😂 Any plans for your weekend? 

    I will be eagerly await your update tomorrow morning 🤞🤞🤞

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